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Interview with Louis Farrakhan
« Thread Started on Oct 14, 2005, 2:17pm »

FOREMAN: It was a radical idea that first played out here in Washington ten years ago. African American men gathered on the National Mall for what was known as the Million Man March, an efforts to showcase a positive image of black menace as responsible and contributing members to the community.

Now, a decade later, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan wants to broaden that movement, and he's renamed the march the Millions More Movement. Minister Louis Farrakhan joins us now in "The Situation Room."

Thanks for coming here.

LOUIS FARRAKHAN, NATION OF ISLAM: Thank you for having me.

FOREMAN: Why revive this, why push this forward now?

FARRAKHAN: Well, certainly, we can never repeat the Million Man March. But those who were responsible for producing the Million Man March, the Million Woman March, the Million Youth March, the Million Family March, and the Million Worker March, all of us have come together along with civil rights, nationalists, pan-Africanists, young people, to look at the condition of our people.

And we realize that no one leader, no one organization, can solve the many problems of our people. But we, as a unified group, believe that we have the will, the skill, and the finance to be able to help our people out of the condition that we find ourselves in.

FOREMAN: Certainly, a lot of people throughout the American community paid attention when the Million Man March happened, but I want to quote something. Reverend Jeremiah Wright from the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago said, "The Million Man March was a wonderful moment spiritually, but I feel like, what did we do with it? And what are we going to do that's different this time around?" In a practical sense, you've worried about these problems forever. Did anything get any better after the first march?

FARRAKHAN: Well, we can say that 25,000 orphans found a home, 1.7 million black men voted in the next election. The crime rate, the murder rate went down in the inner cities at that time. But what has happened to America in the last ten years is greatly reflected in the poor of this country.

FOREMAN: Has that been good or bad?

FARRAKHAN: It's not good because when you cede manufacturing to overseas cheap labor markets, when factories close in the inner cities, this leaves the black, the brown, the poor white in the lurch. When we don't have a lot of choices, if we join the armed forces, maybe there's a chance there.

If we become entrepreneurs, there's a chance there. But it seems like young black and brown men are being herded into criminal behavior, drugs and guns and gangs, and the killing goes on and we're filling the jails of America.

FOREMAN: You had to be very disturbed by what you saw out of New Orleans, as a great many Americans were disturbed by what they saw out of New Orleans. When you watched what happened there, the flooding, which happened largely in very poor neighborhoods, substantial numbers of people there who are black people, what did you think?

FARRAKHAN: Well, first, many of us saw race raise its ugly face again. The ugly specter of poverty and want in the midst of plenty was shown, not only to the American people, but to America's hurt. In foreign capitals, the news was negative against America.

FOREMAN: I want to interrupt you on this question of negative news here, because there has been the suggestion out there, people have written about this notion, that they say that you said at some point, you believe the levees were bombed or purposely breached to flood black neighborhoods. Is that true?

FARRAKHAN: Well, yes, I did say that, but I didn't say it in a vacuum.

FOREMAN: What do you mean? Explain it.

FARRAKHAN: I spoke along with members of the executive committee of the Millions More Movement to Mayor Nagin after he told us many things that he felt we could do to help. He did mention that there was a 25-foot crater under the levee.

Then we heard from the Hal Turner Show that someone under the rubric of anonymity said to Mr. Turner that he was a member of the Army Corps of Engineers, went down in his diving suit, and he saw burn marks on the concrete, and he spirited some of it away and sent it to his friend in the Army forensic laboratory. And they sent back to him saying that there were two types of explosives that they named, I can't recall, but let me just say this. Whether it is a rumor or truth, whenever there's a rumor that is believed by many, it becomes the duty and the obligation to take that rumor to those who have the knowledge to search the truth of it out.

FOREMAN: Do you believe this rumor? Do you believe the levees were bombed down there, or do you not believe that?

FARRAKHAN: I would like to know the truth of it. In John Barry's book "The Rising Tide," he said that in 1927, whites in New Orleans purposely bombed that levee. If it happened once, could it happen again? You know, we need to know the truth. The American people need to note truth.

And there are those who can search out the truth of this to either dispel it as nothing more than a rumor, or show that it is the truth, if it is, and then let's find the persons who are guilty, not only of destroying billions of dollars of property, but the mass murder of thousands of American citizens.

FOREMAN: If I'm not mistaken, this is 50 years since you joined the Nation of Islam. Is that correct, this year?

FARRAKHAN: That is correct.

FOREMAN: You were a very young man at that time.

FARRAKHAN: Yes, sir.

FOREMAN: You spent a lot of years working on this. How do you -- you mentioned earlier the opportunities for young black people in this country, many of whom find it in the military. How do you square in your head, now, your experience with the Nation of Islam, young black Americans, fighting in the military service for opportunity, being attacked by Islamic radicals? How do you square this away?

FARRAKHAN: Well, what we're looking at, sir, is an effect. What you don't see, and what America does not wish to deal with, is the cause. Now, what is the cause of Islamic radicalism? Why is there anger in the Islamic world against the United States of America? What has happened to the courts of redress of grievance that people are almost so almost imbalanced to the point where they would kill themselves and kill innocent people for political purposes?

FOREMAN: But do you feel any need to speak out more strongly and either condemn the Islamic radical for doing this and saying this is not Islam, or to say to the young black Americans, "You shouldn't be going there." How do you come out of this thing?

FARRAKHAN: Well, we, as followers of the Honorable Elijah Mohammed, have in our general orders, you know, these words: We allow no one to make a nuisance on or near our post.

We believe that our post is 3,000 by 2,000 miles called the United States of America. And none of us would allow anybody to plant a bomb or do something to harm innocent people for some political purpose. We would fight that. We would oppose that.

FOREMAN: So you're squarely against the Islamic radicals doing this in the name of Islam?

FARRAKHAN: I am squarely against anyone taking the lives of innocent people for political purposes. But I would hope that, when we see this happening all over the world that we would realize that we're looking at an effect and we would come back and re-examine our policies toward that part of the world.

And if we can make a correction, then America can regain the respect, admiration and friendship of the Arab and Muslim world.

FOREMAN: Minister Farrakhan, thanks for coming by.

You had some of that fire of all those many years you've spent on this for a moment.

I appreciate it very much.

FARRAKHAN: I'm honored, sir. Thank you.

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